Hardwood Floors June/July 2025

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“One of the things that people don't talk about enough when it comes to the skilled trades is the fact that there is a clear path to being an independent business owner. Having your own business is the American dream. I know a lot of folks in our industry who give their employees a clear path to someday owning their own business. Who cares if you are creating a competitor in your market if you know they are a good competitor and they are running a legitimate business? A rising tide raises all ships, as the saying goes. It brings treasure to everyone in that market. This is especially true if you are training that "competitor" and are able to still partner with them down the line as subcontractors – and they, in turn, are sending business your way.” – Brett Miller NWFA Wood Talk Podcast

“With those that I coach, I always encourage them to be the best professional they can be. I stress to them that being the best professional you can be means knowing that you do not have competitors; rather, they are peers. There is nothing wrong with two people quoting the same job – they are not your enemy. Be a professional. I am seeing this behavior

more and more with the emerging leaders I work with, and it's very encouraging to see. The camaraderie I see is incredible.” – Chris Zizza NWFA Real Answers Podcast SAVE THE DATE OCTOBER 15 -17, 2025 LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT SUMMIT ST. LOUIS, MO

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